https://wikispooks.com/w/index.php?title=Document:Understanding_the_War_in_Libya&feed=atom&action=historyDocument:Understanding the War in Libya - Revision history2024-03-28T23:06:03ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.33.2https://wikispooks.com/w/index.php?title=Document:Understanding_the_War_in_Libya&diff=149091&oldid=prevRobin: Text replacement - "WikiSpooks" to "Wikispooks"2018-10-14T17:19:16Z<p>Text replacement - "WikiSpooks" to "Wikispooks"</p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>When Obama says it himself, wouldn’t you believe him either? On 28 March, Obama justified the war against Libya thus: "Aware of the risks and costs of military action, we are naturally reluctant to use force to resolve the many challenges facing the world. But when our interests and values are at stake, we have a responsibility to act. Given the costs and risks of the intervention, we must measure our interests whenever faced with the need for action. America has an important strategic interest in preventing Qaddafi from defeating those who oppose him." Isn’t clear ? So, some say "Yes, yes, the U.S. acts as if they find their interest too. Failing to intervene everywhere, at least they will be saving these people. "?False. We will show that only interest will be protected. No values??. First, every U.S. war claimed more victims than there were before (in Iraq, one million direct and indirect victims !). Then, the intervention in Libya is preparing other victims too...</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>When Obama says it himself, wouldn’t you believe him either? On 28 March, Obama justified the war against Libya thus: "Aware of the risks and costs of military action, we are naturally reluctant to use force to resolve the many challenges facing the world. But when our interests and values are at stake, we have a responsibility to act. Given the costs and risks of the intervention, we must measure our interests whenever faced with the need for action. America has an important strategic interest in preventing Qaddafi from defeating those who oppose him." Isn’t clear ? So, some say "Yes, yes, the U.S. acts as if they find their interest too. Failing to intervene everywhere, at least they will be saving these people. "?False. We will show that only interest will be protected. No values??. First, every U.S. war claimed more victims than there were before (in Iraq, one million direct and indirect victims !). Then, the intervention in Libya is preparing other victims too...</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Who refused to negotiate?''' As soon as you express doubt about the purpose of this war against Libya you are made to feel guilty: ''"You refuse then to save the Libyans from a massacre?"'' - Badly posed question. Let’s suppose that everything we’ve been told really happened. First, should we stop a massacre by means of another massacre? We know that by bombing our armies will kill many innocent civilians. Even if, as in every war, the generals promise that it will be "clean"; we're used to this propaganda. Second, there was a much simpler and more effective way to save lives immediately. All Latin American countries have offered to immediately send a mediation mission headed by Lula. The Arab League and African Union supported this approach and Gaddafi had agreed (also offering to send international observers to verify the cease-fire). But the insurgents in Western Libya refused mediation. Why? "Because Gaddafi is not behaving in good faith," they say. Possible. Whereas, the insurgents and their Western protectors have always behaved in good faith - '''really?''' It is useful to recall how the United States behaved in all previous wars every time a cease-fire was possible ... In 1991, when Bush attacked [[Iraq]] because it invaded [[Kuwait]], [[Saddam Hussein]] offered to withdraw and that Israel must also evacuate from the illegally occupied territories in [[Palestine]]. But the U.S. and European countries refused six negotiating proposals. {{ref|7}} In 1999, when Clinton bombed Yugoslavia, [[Milosevic]] accepted the conditions imposed in Rambouillet, but the U.S. and NATO have added one more condition, one that they KNOW to be unacceptable: the total occupation of Serbia. {{ref|8}} In 2001, when Bush's son attacked Afghanistan, the Taliban offered to hand bin Laden to an international tribunal if they provided evidence of his involvement, but Bush refused to negotiate. In 2003, when Bush's son attacked Iraq under the pretext of weapons of mass destruction, Saddam Hussein offered to receive inspectors, but Bush refused because he knew that the inspectors would find nothing. This was confirmed by the disclosure of the memo of a meeting between the British government and leaders of the British secret services in July 2002: British officials hoped their ultimatum was drafted in unacceptable terms so that Saddam Hussein would reject them immediately. But they were far from certain that this would work. So, there was a Plan B: the aircraft patrolling the "no fly zone" throwing many more bombs in the hope that this will cause a reaction that would give an excuse for a broad bombing campaign. {{ref|9}} - (Also see <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">WikiSpooks</del>' [[Downing Street Memo]] pages)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Who refused to negotiate?''' As soon as you express doubt about the purpose of this war against Libya you are made to feel guilty: ''"You refuse then to save the Libyans from a massacre?"'' - Badly posed question. Let’s suppose that everything we’ve been told really happened. First, should we stop a massacre by means of another massacre? We know that by bombing our armies will kill many innocent civilians. Even if, as in every war, the generals promise that it will be "clean"; we're used to this propaganda. Second, there was a much simpler and more effective way to save lives immediately. All Latin American countries have offered to immediately send a mediation mission headed by Lula. The Arab League and African Union supported this approach and Gaddafi had agreed (also offering to send international observers to verify the cease-fire). But the insurgents in Western Libya refused mediation. Why? "Because Gaddafi is not behaving in good faith," they say. Possible. Whereas, the insurgents and their Western protectors have always behaved in good faith - '''really?''' It is useful to recall how the United States behaved in all previous wars every time a cease-fire was possible ... In 1991, when Bush attacked [[Iraq]] because it invaded [[Kuwait]], [[Saddam Hussein]] offered to withdraw and that Israel must also evacuate from the illegally occupied territories in [[Palestine]]. But the U.S. and European countries refused six negotiating proposals. {{ref|7}} In 1999, when Clinton bombed Yugoslavia, [[Milosevic]] accepted the conditions imposed in Rambouillet, but the U.S. and NATO have added one more condition, one that they KNOW to be unacceptable: the total occupation of Serbia. {{ref|8}} In 2001, when Bush's son attacked Afghanistan, the Taliban offered to hand bin Laden to an international tribunal if they provided evidence of his involvement, but Bush refused to negotiate. In 2003, when Bush's son attacked Iraq under the pretext of weapons of mass destruction, Saddam Hussein offered to receive inspectors, but Bush refused because he knew that the inspectors would find nothing. This was confirmed by the disclosure of the memo of a meeting between the British government and leaders of the British secret services in July 2002: British officials hoped their ultimatum was drafted in unacceptable terms so that Saddam Hussein would reject them immediately. But they were far from certain that this would work. So, there was a Plan B: the aircraft patrolling the "no fly zone" throwing many more bombs in the hope that this will cause a reaction that would give an excuse for a broad bombing campaign. {{ref|9}} - (Also see <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Wikispooks</ins>' [[Downing Street Memo]] pages)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>When you give in to the IMF, you do harm to your people. But if tomorrow Tunisia and Egypt become leftists, Gaddafi will undoubtedly be able to reconsider these concessions. A resistance axis between Cairo-Tripoli-Tunis, standing up to the United States and determined to make Israel give in would be a nightmare for Washington. Overthrowing Gaddafi is thus prevention.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>When you give in to the IMF, you do harm to your people. But if tomorrow Tunisia and Egypt become leftists, Gaddafi will undoubtedly be able to reconsider these concessions. A resistance axis between Cairo-Tripoli-Tunis, standing up to the United States and determined to make Israel give in would be a nightmare for Washington. Overthrowing Gaddafi is thus prevention.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[File:Obama-Libya-Oil.gif|thumb|350px]]</del></div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''27 times'''. The United States bombed sovereign countries in [[US Bombing campaigns since 1945|27 interventions/wars since 1945]]. Each time, we were told that these acts of war were ''"fair"'' and ''"humanitarian."'' Today, we are told that the Libyan intervention is different from previous ones. But this was also said last time, and the time before, and the time before..... It was said every time. Isn’t it time to write down the questions we should ask in every war in order to avoid being manipulated?</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''27 times'''. The United States bombed sovereign countries in [[US Bombing campaigns since 1945|27 interventions/wars since 1945]]. Each time, we were told that these acts of war were ''"fair"'' and ''"humanitarian."'' Today, we are told that the Libyan intervention is different from previous ones. But this was also said last time, and the time before, and the time before..... It was said every time. Isn’t it time to write down the questions we should ask in every war in order to avoid being manipulated?</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>For those who still believe in the humanitarian war …</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>For those who still believe in the humanitarian war …</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In a televised debate I had with [[Louis Michel]], former Belgian Minister of <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </del>Foreign Affairs and European Commissioner for Development Cooperation, the latter swore – hand on heart – that this war was intended to “accord to the conscience of Europe” . He was supported by Isabelle Durant, Belgian leader of the Greens and European. Thus, “peace and love” environmentalists have mutated going to war</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In a televised debate I had with [[Louis Michel]], former Belgian Minister of Foreign Affairs and <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[[</ins>European Commissioner<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">]] </ins>for Development Cooperation, the latter swore – hand on heart – that this war was intended to “accord to the conscience of Europe” . He was supported by <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[[</ins>Isabelle Durant<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">]]</ins>, Belgian leader of the Greens and European. Thus, “peace and love” environmentalists have mutated going to war<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">.</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The problem is that every time we speak of humanitarian war, and every single time these “left” people like Durant get caught in it. Wouldn’t it be better for them to read what the U.S. leaders really think instead of just listening to them on television?</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The problem is that every time we speak of humanitarian war, and every single time these “left” people like Durant get caught in it. Wouldn’t it be better for them to read what the U.S. leaders really think instead of just listening to them on television?</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Listen for example, <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </del>about the bombing against Iraq, to the famous [[Alan Greenspan]], who was <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </del>long director of the Federal Reserve of USA. He wrote in his memoirs : ‘I am saddened that it is politically incorrect to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war was mainly for oil “ {{ref|2}} . Adding “Officials from the White House told me: ‘Well, unfortunately we can not talk about oil’.” {{ref|3}}</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Listen for example, about the bombing against Iraq, to the famous [[Alan Greenspan]], who was long <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[[</ins>director of the Federal Reserve<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">]] </ins>of USA. He wrote in his memoirs : ‘I am saddened that it is politically incorrect to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war was mainly for oil “ {{ref|2}} . Adding “Officials from the White House told me: ‘Well, unfortunately we can not talk about oil’.” {{ref|3}}</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Listen, about the bombing against Yugoslavia, to [[John Norris]], director of Strobe Talbott who was then U.S. Vice-Minister of Foreign Affairs, in charge of the Balkans. Norris wrote in his memoirs : “What best explains NATO’s war is that Yugoslavia resisted the broad trends in political and economic reforms (meaning refusing to give up Socialism), and it is not our duty to the Kosovo Albanians.“ {{ref|4}}</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Listen, about the bombing against <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[[</ins>Yugoslavia<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">]]</ins>, to [[John Norris]], director of <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[[</ins>Strobe Talbott<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">]] </ins>who was then U.S. Vice-Minister of Foreign Affairs, in charge of the Balkans. Norris wrote in his memoirs : “What best explains NATO’s war is that Yugoslavia resisted the broad trends in political and economic reforms (meaning refusing to give up Socialism), and it is not our duty to the Kosovo Albanians.“ {{ref|4}}</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Listen, about the bombing against Afghanistan, what the former U.S. Minister of Foreign Affairs Henry Kissinger said : “There are trends, supported by China and Japan, to create a free trade area in Asia. An opposing Asian bloc combining the most populous nations in the world with great resources and some of the most important industrial countries would be inconsistent with American national interest. For these reasons, America must maintain a presence in Asia … “ {{ref|5}}</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Listen, about the bombing against Afghanistan, what the former U.S. Minister of Foreign Affairs Henry Kissinger said : “There are trends, supported by China and Japan, to create a free trade area in Asia. An opposing Asian bloc combining the most populous nations in the world with great resources and some of the most important industrial countries would be inconsistent with American national interest. For these reasons, America must maintain a presence in Asia … “ {{ref|5}}</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>===Libya is like Tunisia and Egypt ?===</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>===Libya is like Tunisia and Egypt ?===</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In his excellent interview published a few days ago by Investig'Action, Mohamed Hassan asked the right question: "Libya : popular revolt, [[civil war]] or military aggression?” In light of recent research, it is actually possible to answer all three. A spontaneous revolt, quickly recovered and transformed into a civil war (which had been prepared), served as a pretext for military aggression, which also had been prepared. Nothing falls from the sky in politics. Let me explain... In Tunisia and in Egypt, the popular revolt grew increasingly over a few weeks, organizing itself gradually and uniting on clear claims, which helped to expel the tyrants. But when analyzing the ultra-fast sequence of events in Benghazi, one is intrigued. February 15, demonstration by relatives of political prisoners during the rebellion of 2006. Event severely repressed, as has always been the case in Libya and other Arab countries. And just two days later, re-demonstration, but this time the demonstrators were armed and passed directly to escalation against the regime of Gaddafi. In two days, a popular revolt becomes a civil war! Quite spontaneously? To find out, we must examine what lies under the vague term "Libyan opposition". In our opinion, four components with very different interests:</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In his excellent interview published a few days ago by Investig'Action, <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[[</ins>Mohamed Hassan<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">]] </ins>asked the right question: "Libya : popular revolt, [[civil war]] or military aggression?” In light of recent research, it is actually possible to answer all three. A spontaneous revolt, quickly recovered and transformed into a civil war (which had been prepared), served as a pretext for military aggression, which also had been prepared. Nothing falls from the sky in politics. Let me explain... In Tunisia and in Egypt, the popular revolt grew increasingly over a few weeks, organizing itself gradually and uniting on clear claims, which helped to expel the tyrants. But when analyzing the ultra-fast sequence of events in Benghazi, one is intrigued. February 15, demonstration by relatives of political prisoners during the rebellion of 2006. Event severely repressed, as has always been the case in Libya and other Arab countries. And just two days later, re-demonstration, but this time the demonstrators were armed and passed directly to escalation against the regime of Gaddafi. In two days, a popular revolt becomes a civil war! Quite spontaneously? To find out, we must examine what lies under the vague term "Libyan opposition". In our opinion, four components with very different interests:</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#A democratic opposition.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#A democratic opposition.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#Dignitaries of Gaddafi "returned” by the West.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#Dignitaries of Gaddafi "returned” by the West.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Unhappy Clans'''. As pointed out by Mohamed Hassan, the structure of Libya remained highly tribal. During the colonial period, under the regime of King Idris, the clans of the east dominated their oil wealth and advantage. After the 1969 revolution, Gadhafi has relied on the tribes of the west and east has been disadvantaged. It is regrettable, and a democratic government must ensure fairly fight discrimination between regions. One can also wonder whether the former colonial powers did not encourage dissatisfied tribes to undermine national unity. This is not the first time. Today, France and USA rely on the clans of the east to take control of the country. Divide and rule, the old classic of colonialism.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Unhappy Clans'''. As pointed out by Mohamed Hassan, the structure of Libya remained highly tribal. During the colonial period, under the regime of King Idris, the clans of the east dominated their oil wealth and advantage. After the 1969 revolution, Gadhafi has relied on the tribes of the west and east has been disadvantaged. It is regrettable, and a democratic government must ensure fairly fight discrimination between regions. One can also wonder whether the former colonial powers did not encourage dissatisfied tribes to undermine national unity. This is not the first time. Today, France and USA rely on the clans of the east to take control of the country. Divide and rule, the old classic of colonialism.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Elements <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </del>of Al Qaeda'''. Cables released by [[Wikileaks]] warned that eastern Libya was proportionally the largest exporter in the world of "fighters - martyrs" in Iraq. Reports from the Pentagon described an "alarming scenario" on the Lybian rebels of Benghazi and Derna. Derna, a town of barely 80,000 inhabitants would be the first source of jihadists in Iraq. Similarly, [[Vincent Cannistraro]], former CIA chief in Libya, reports among the rebels a lot of "Islamic extremists who can create problems" and that "odds [are] high that the most dangerous individuals can have an influence If Gaddafi is expected to fall." {{ref|10}}.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Elements of Al Qaeda'''. Cables released by [[Wikileaks]] warned that eastern Libya was proportionally the largest exporter in the world of "fighters - martyrs" in Iraq. Reports from the Pentagon described an "alarming scenario" on the Lybian rebels of Benghazi and Derna. Derna, a town of barely 80,000 inhabitants would be the first source of jihadists in Iraq. Similarly, [[Vincent Cannistraro]], former CIA chief in Libya, reports among the rebels a lot of "Islamic extremists who can create problems" and that "odds [are] high that the most dangerous individuals can have an influence If Gaddafi is expected to fall." {{ref|10}}.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Obviously, all this was written when Gaddafi was still "a friend". But it shows the complete lack of principles of the US and its allies. When Gaddafi repressed the Islamist revolt in Benghazi in 2006, it was with the West's weapons and support that he did it. So, sometimes they’re against the “bin Laden” style fighters. And, some other times, they use them. One must know.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Obviously, all this was written when Gaddafi was still "a friend". But it shows the complete lack of principles of the US and its allies. When Gaddafi repressed the Islamist revolt in Benghazi in 2006, it was with the West's weapons and support that he did it. So, sometimes they’re against the “bin Laden” style fighters. And, some other times, they use them. One must know.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>What was the role of secret services ? In fact, the Libyan case didn’t start in February in Benghazi, but in Paris October 21st, 2010. According to the revelations of Italian journalist [[Franco Bechis]] (Libero, 24th of March) it was that day that the French secret service had prepared the revolt of Benghazi. They then "returned" (or perhaps even before) Nuri Mesmari, Chief of Protocol of Gaddafi, who was almost his right hand against him. He was the only one who enters the residence of the Libyan leader without knocking. Coming to Paris with his family for a surgery, Mesmari didn’t meet any doctor there, but on the other side, he would talk to several officials of the French secret services and Sarkozy's close aides, according to the latest web Maghreb Confidential. On November 16th, at the Hotel Concorde Lafayette, he prepared a large delegation that would go two days later to Benghazi.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>What was the role of secret services ? In fact, the Libyan case didn’t start in February in Benghazi, but in Paris October 21st, 2010. According to the revelations of Italian journalist [[Franco Bechis]] (Libero, 24th of March) it was that day that the French secret service had prepared the revolt of Benghazi. They then "returned" (or perhaps even before) Nuri Mesmari, Chief of Protocol of Gaddafi, who was almost his right hand against him. He was the only one who enters the residence of the Libyan leader without knocking. Coming to Paris with his family for a surgery, Mesmari didn’t meet any doctor there, but on the other side, he would talk to several officials of the French secret services and Sarkozy's close aides, according to the latest web Maghreb Confidential. On November 16th, at the Hotel Concorde Lafayette, he prepared a large delegation that would go two days later to Benghazi.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Officially, this delegation included officials of the Ministry of Agriculture and leaders of the following firms : France Export Céréales, Agrimer France, Louis Dreyfus, Glencore, Cargill and Conagra. But according to the Italian services, the delegation also included several French soldiers disguised as businessmen. In Benghazi, they would meet [[Gehan Abdallah]], a Libyan colonel who was ready to desert, according to Mesmari. In mid-December, Gaddafi, suspicious, sent an emissary to Paris to try to contact Mesmari, but France arrested him. Other Libyans came visiting Paris on <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </del>December 23rd, and it is they who will lead the revolt in Benghazi with the militia of Colonel Gehan. Especially as Mesmari provided many secrets to the French about the Libyan defense. From all this, it is clear that the revolt in the east is not as spontaneous as we’ve been told. But that's not all, It's not just the French ...</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Officially, this delegation included officials of the Ministry of Agriculture and leaders of the following firms : France Export Céréales, Agrimer France, Louis Dreyfus, Glencore, Cargill and Conagra. But according to the Italian services, the delegation also included several French soldiers disguised as businessmen. In Benghazi, they would meet [[Gehan Abdallah]], a Libyan colonel who was ready to desert, according to Mesmari. In mid-December, Gaddafi, suspicious, sent an emissary to Paris to try to contact Mesmari, but France arrested him. Other Libyans came visiting <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[[</ins>Paris<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">]] </ins>on December 23rd, and it is they who will lead the revolt in Benghazi with the militia of Colonel Gehan. Especially as Mesmari provided many secrets to the French about the Libyan defense. From all this, it is clear that the revolt in the east is not as spontaneous as we’ve been told. But that's not all, It's not just the French ...</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Who now runs the military operations of the "Libyan National Council" anti-Qaddafi? A man who just arrived from the USA on the 14th of March, according to ''[[Al Jazeera]]''. Described as one of the two "stars" of the Libyan uprising by the right oriented British newspaper Daily Mail, [[Khalifa Haftar]] is a former colonel in the Libyan army, who was in the United States. He was among the main military commanders of Libya until the disastrous expedition in Chad in the late 80s. He emigrated after that to the USA and lived in Virginia for the last twenty year. Without any known source of income, but at a small distance from the offices of... the CIA. {{ref|11}} The world is so small. How can a top Libyan military man enter the United States in peace, a few years after the Lockerbie <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </del>terrorist attack, for which Libya has been condemned, and live peacefully for twenty years next to the CIA? <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </del>He necessarily had to offer something in exchange. Published in 2001, the book <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">“African Manipulations” </del>by Pierre Péan retraces the connections of Hitler with <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </del>the CIA and the creation, with the support of the latter, of the Libyan National Liberation Front. The only achievement of the said Front will be the organization in 2007, in the USA, of a "National Convention" funded by the National Endowment for Democracy {{ref|12}}, traditional <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </del>intermediary of the CIA, often used to reward organizations who serve the United States ...?</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Who now runs the military operations of the "Libyan National Council" anti-Qaddafi? A man who just arrived from the USA on the 14th of March, according to ''[[Al Jazeera]]''. Described as one of the two "stars" of the Libyan uprising by the right oriented British newspaper Daily Mail, [[Khalifa Haftar]] is a former colonel in the Libyan army, who was in the United States. He was among the main military commanders of Libya until the disastrous expedition in Chad in the late <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[[</ins>80s<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">]]</ins>. He emigrated after that to the USA and lived in Virginia for the last twenty year. Without any known source of income, but at a small distance from the offices of... the CIA. {{ref|11}} The world is so small. How can a top Libyan military man enter the United States in peace, a few years after the Lockerbie terrorist attack, for which Libya has been condemned, and live peacefully for twenty years next to the CIA? He necessarily had to offer something in exchange. Published in 2001, the book <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">''African Manipulations'' </ins>by <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[[</ins>Pierre Péan<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">]] </ins>retraces the connections of <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[[</ins>Hitler<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">]] </ins>with the CIA and the creation, with the support of the latter, of the Libyan National Liberation Front. The only achievement of the said Front will be the organization in 2007, in the USA, of a "National Convention" funded by the <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[[</ins>National Endowment for Democracy<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">]]</ins>{{ref|12}}, traditional intermediary of the CIA, often used to reward organizations who serve the United States ...?</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In March this year to a date not <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </del>disclosed, Obama signed a secret order authorizing the CIA to conduct <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </del>operations in Libya to overthrow Gaddafi. The Wall Street Journal, which recounts this March 31, adds: </div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In March this year to a date not disclosed, Obama signed a secret order authorizing the CIA to conduct operations in Libya to overthrow Gaddafi. The <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">''[[</ins>Wall Street Journal<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">]]''</ins>, which recounts this March 31, adds: </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>All this is no longer top secret, it appeared since a while on the Internet, and what is surprising is that the mainstream media didn’t even mention it. However, we have already seen many examples of "freedom fighters" as well armed and financed by the CIA. For example, in the 80's, the terrorist militia contras, set up by Reagan to destabilize and overthrow Nicaragua's progressive government. Didn’t we learn anything from history? Doesn’t this "left" European who is applauding the bombing use the Internet ? Is it any wonder that the Italian services denounce the exploits of their French colleagues like this and that they then denounce their U.S. colleagues?</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>All this is no longer top secret, it appeared since a while on the Internet, and what is surprising is that the mainstream media didn’t even mention it. However, we have already seen many examples of "freedom fighters" as well armed and financed by the CIA. For example, in the 80's, the terrorist militia contras, set up by Reagan to destabilize and overthrow Nicaragua's progressive government. Didn’t we learn anything from history? Doesn’t this "left" European who is applauding the bombing use the Internet ? Is it any wonder that the Italian services denounce the exploits of their French colleagues like this and that they then denounce their U.S. colleagues?</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>What is the difference between a Libyan, a Bahraini and a Palestinian? Presidents, ministers and generals solemnly swear that their objective is only to save the Libyans. But at the same time, the Sultan of Bahrain is massacring unarmed demonstrators with the help of the two thousand Saudi soldiers sent by the United States! Meanwhile, in Yemen, the troops of dictator Saleh, a U.S. ally, are killing 52 demonstrators with machine guns. These facts have been disputed by no one, but at the same time, the [[U.S. Minister of War]], [[Robert Gates]], has just declared: ''"I do not think it's my role to intervene in the internal affairs of [[Yemen]]"'' {{ref|1}}.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>What is the difference between a Libyan, a Bahraini and a Palestinian? Presidents, ministers and generals solemnly swear that their objective is only to save the Libyans. But at the same time, the Sultan of Bahrain is massacring unarmed demonstrators with the help of the two thousand Saudi soldiers sent by the United States! Meanwhile, in Yemen, the troops of dictator Saleh, a U.S. ally, are killing 52 demonstrators with machine guns. These facts have been disputed by no one, but at the same time, the [[U.S. Minister of War]], [[Robert Gates]], has just declared: ''"I do not think it's my role to intervene in the internal affairs of [[Yemen]]"'' {{ref|1}}.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>When Obama says it himself, wouldn’t you believe him either? On 28 March, Obama justified the war against Libya thus: "Aware of the risks and costs of military action, we are naturally reluctant to use force to resolve the many challenges facing the world. But when our interests and values are at stake, we have a responsibility to act. Given the costs and risks of the intervention, we must measure our interests whenever faced with the need for action. America has an important strategic interest in preventing Qaddafi from defeating those who oppose him." Isn’t clear ? So, some say "Yes, yes, the U.S. acts as if they find their interest too. Failing to intervene everywhere, at least they will be saving these people. "?False. We will show that only interest will be protected. No values??. First, every U.S. war claimed more victims than there were before (in Iraq, one million direct and indirect victims !). Then, the intervention in Libya is preparing other victims too...</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>When Obama says it himself, wouldn’t you believe him either? On 28 March, Obama justified the war against Libya thus: "Aware of the risks and costs of military action, we are naturally reluctant to use force to resolve the many challenges facing the world. But when our interests and values are at stake, we have a responsibility to act. Given the costs and risks of the intervention, we must measure our interests whenever faced with the need for action. America has an important strategic interest in preventing Qaddafi from defeating those who oppose him." Isn’t clear ? So, some say "Yes, yes, the U.S. acts as if they find their interest too. Failing to intervene everywhere, at least they will be saving these people. "?False. We will show that only interest will be protected. No values??. First, every U.S. war claimed more victims than there were before (in Iraq, one million direct and indirect victims !). Then, the intervention in Libya is preparing other victims too...</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Who refused to negotiate?''' As soon as you express doubt about the purpose of this war against Libya you are made to feel guilty: ''"You refuse then to save the Libyans from a massacre?"'' - Badly posed question. Let’s suppose that everything we’ve been told really happened. First, should we stop a massacre by means of another massacre? We know that by bombing our armies will kill many innocent civilians. Even if, as in every war, the generals promise that it will be "clean"; we're used to this propaganda. Second, there was a much simpler and more effective way to save lives immediately. All Latin American countries have offered to immediately send a mediation mission headed by Lula. The Arab League and African Union supported this approach and Gaddafi had agreed (also offering to send international observers to verify the cease-fire). But the insurgents in Western Libya refused mediation. Why? "Because Gaddafi is not behaving in good faith," they say. Possible. Whereas, the insurgents and their Western protectors have always behaved in good faith - '''really?''' It is useful to recall how the United States behaved in all previous wars every time a cease-fire was possible ... In 1991, when Bush attacked [[Iraq]] because it invaded [[Kuwait]], [[Saddam Hussein]] offered to withdraw and that Israel must also evacuate from the illegally occupied territories in [[Palestine]]. But the U.S. and European countries refused six negotiating proposals. {{ref|7}} In 1999, when Clinton bombed Yugoslavia, Milosevic accepted the conditions imposed in Rambouillet, but the U.S. and NATO have added one more condition, one that they KNOW to be unacceptable: the total occupation of Serbia. {{ref|8}} In 2001, when Bush's son attacked Afghanistan, the Taliban offered to hand bin Laden to an international tribunal if they provided evidence of his involvement, but Bush refused to negotiate. In 2003, when Bush's son attacked Iraq under the pretext of weapons of mass destruction, Saddam Hussein offered to receive inspectors, but Bush refused because he knew that the inspectors would find nothing. This was confirmed by the disclosure of the memo of a meeting between the British government and leaders of the British secret services in July 2002: British officials hoped their ultimatum was drafted in unacceptable terms so that Saddam Hussein would reject them immediately. But they were far from certain that this would work. So, there was a Plan B: the aircraft patrolling the "no fly zone" throwing many more bombs in the hope that this will cause a reaction that would give an excuse for a broad bombing campaign. {{ref|9}} - (Also see WikiSpooks' [[Downing Street Memo]] pages)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Who refused to negotiate?''' As soon as you express doubt about the purpose of this war against Libya you are made to feel guilty: ''"You refuse then to save the Libyans from a massacre?"'' - Badly posed question. Let’s suppose that everything we’ve been told really happened. First, should we stop a massacre by means of another massacre? We know that by bombing our armies will kill many innocent civilians. Even if, as in every war, the generals promise that it will be "clean"; we're used to this propaganda. Second, there was a much simpler and more effective way to save lives immediately. All Latin American countries have offered to immediately send a mediation mission headed by Lula. The Arab League and African Union supported this approach and Gaddafi had agreed (also offering to send international observers to verify the cease-fire). But the insurgents in Western Libya refused mediation. Why? "Because Gaddafi is not behaving in good faith," they say. Possible. Whereas, the insurgents and their Western protectors have always behaved in good faith - '''really?''' It is useful to recall how the United States behaved in all previous wars every time a cease-fire was possible ... In 1991, when Bush attacked [[Iraq]] because it invaded [[Kuwait]], [[Saddam Hussein]] offered to withdraw and that Israel must also evacuate from the illegally occupied territories in [[Palestine]]. But the U.S. and European countries refused six negotiating proposals. {{ref|7}} In 1999, when Clinton bombed Yugoslavia, <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[[</ins>Milosevic<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">]] </ins>accepted the conditions imposed in Rambouillet, but the U.S. and NATO have added one more condition, one that they KNOW to be unacceptable: the total occupation of Serbia. {{ref|8}} In 2001, when Bush's son attacked Afghanistan, the Taliban offered to hand bin Laden to an international tribunal if they provided evidence of his involvement, but Bush refused to negotiate. In 2003, when Bush's son attacked Iraq under the pretext of weapons of mass destruction, Saddam Hussein offered to receive inspectors, but Bush refused because he knew that the inspectors would find nothing. This was confirmed by the disclosure of the memo of a meeting between the British government and leaders of the British secret services in July 2002: British officials hoped their ultimatum was drafted in unacceptable terms so that Saddam Hussein would reject them immediately. But they were far from certain that this would work. So, there was a Plan B: the aircraft patrolling the "no fly zone" throwing many more bombs in the hope that this will cause a reaction that would give an excuse for a broad bombing campaign. {{ref|9}} - (Also see WikiSpooks' [[Downing Street Memo]] pages)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So, before asserting that "we” always tell the truth while "they" always lie, and also that "we” are always looking for a peaceful solution, while "they" do not want to compromise, we should be more careful ... Sooner or later, the audience will learn what really happened during backroom negotiations, and will realize once again that it was manipulated. But it will be too late, and we will not raise the dead.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So, before asserting that "we” always tell the truth while "they" always lie, and also that "we” are always looking for a peaceful solution, while "they" do not want to compromise, we should be more careful ... Sooner or later, the audience will learn what really happened during backroom negotiations, and will realize once again that it was manipulated. But it will be too late, and we will not raise the dead.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Elements of Al Qaeda'''. Cables released by [[Wikileaks]] warned that eastern Libya was proportionally the largest exporter in the world of "fighters - martyrs" in Iraq. Reports from the Pentagon described an "alarming scenario" on the Lybian rebels of Benghazi and Derna. Derna, a town of barely 80,000 inhabitants would be the first source of jihadists in Iraq. Similarly, [[<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Vicent </del>Cannistraro]], former CIA chief in Libya, reports among the rebels a lot of "Islamic extremists who can create problems" and that "odds [are] high that the most dangerous individuals can have an influence If Gaddafi is expected to fall." {{ref|10}}.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Elements of Al Qaeda'''. Cables released by [[Wikileaks]] warned that eastern Libya was proportionally the largest exporter in the world of "fighters - martyrs" in Iraq. Reports from the Pentagon described an "alarming scenario" on the Lybian rebels of Benghazi and Derna. Derna, a town of barely 80,000 inhabitants would be the first source of jihadists in Iraq. Similarly, [[<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Vincent </ins>Cannistraro]], former CIA chief in Libya, reports among the rebels a lot of "Islamic extremists who can create problems" and that "odds [are] high that the most dangerous individuals can have an influence If Gaddafi is expected to fall." {{ref|10}}.</div></td></tr>
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