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I've tentatively pointed these to the as yet non-exist "/Perpetrators" sub pages. That maybe quite a good page construct to have, I can imagine lively discussion in the talk: pageweighing up evidence for and against. That kind of suggests perhaps a "has perpetrator" property. But I'll let the dust settle a bit before creating that. So many different ways to structure things... | I've tentatively pointed these to the as yet non-exist "/Perpetrators" sub pages. That maybe quite a good page construct to have, I can imagine lively discussion in the talk: pageweighing up evidence for and against. That kind of suggests perhaps a "has perpetrator" property. But I'll let the dust settle a bit before creating that. So many different ways to structure things... | ||
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| + | For '''admitted''' False Flags, more or less by definition, then the {{ON}} has changed so that ON_cause==cause. It just occurred to me FWIW that "original narrative" may be a good interpretation in this case. | ||
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From these examples, ON_has_cause is not very clear in my mind yet. Maybe adding more will help it evolve into something less ambiguous. I'm happy to let stuff evolve for now without a master plan of what to fit where... [[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 08:46, 30 December 2013 (GMT) | From these examples, ON_has_cause is not very clear in my mind yet. Maybe adding more will help it evolve into something less ambiguous. I'm happy to let stuff evolve for now without a master plan of what to fit where... [[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 08:46, 30 December 2013 (GMT) | ||
Latest revision as of 17:42, 7 October 2016
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Interpretation
This is intended to mean "was blamed on", as opposed to "actually carried out" (for Property:Has cause). In fact, it's not simple to pin things down that neatly. Looking at the items in the main page listed in Category:False Flag, documents aside, we have:
Unknown Perpetrators
I've tentatively pointed these to the as yet non-exist "/Perpetrators" sub pages. That maybe quite a good page construct to have, I can imagine lively discussion in the talk: pageweighing up evidence for and against. That kind of suggests perhaps a "has perpetrator" property. But I'll let the dust settle a bit before creating that. So many different ways to structure things...
Perpetrators Identical to Property:Has cause
- Attack on Pearl Harbor - Provoked maybe, but not a really false flag as such
- USS Liberty Incident - Failed false flag, now basically ignored by the official narrative
- Times Square car bomb - May 2010 - Maybe Faisal Shahzad - I've no idea - but perhaps it was LIHOP or MIHOP?
Identified Perpetrators
ON as 'Original Narrative'=
For admitted False Flags, more or less by definition, then the Official Narrative has changed so that ON_cause==cause. It just occurred to me FWIW that "original narrative" may be a good interpretation in this case.
Summary
From these examples, ON_has_cause is not very clear in my mind yet. Maybe adding more will help it evolve into something less ambiguous. I'm happy to let stuff evolve for now without a master plan of what to fit where... Robin (talk) 08:46, 30 December 2013 (GMT)
