https://wikispooks.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ellie_Reeves&feed=atom&action=historyTalk:Ellie Reeves - Revision history2024-03-19T11:36:21ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.33.2https://wikispooks.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ellie_Reeves&diff=148855&oldid=prevRobin: Text replacement - "WikiSpooks" to "Wikispooks"2018-10-14T17:10:42Z<p>Text replacement - "WikiSpooks" to "Wikispooks"</p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Sure [[User:Patrick Haseldine|Patrick]] but what is the specific objection? The facts are true, not denied by the subject and clearly relevant to the site’s mission. Can you please give me an idea of how you feel it breaks the editorial rules? [[User:MHN|MHN]] ([[User talk:MHN|talk]]) 22:32, 5 March 2018 (GMT)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Sure [[User:Patrick Haseldine|Patrick]] but what is the specific objection? The facts are true, not denied by the subject and clearly relevant to the site’s mission. Can you please give me an idea of how you feel it breaks the editorial rules? [[User:MHN|MHN]] ([[User talk:MHN|talk]]) 22:32, 5 March 2018 (GMT)</div></td></tr>
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</table>Robinhttps://wikispooks.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ellie_Reeves&diff=145234&oldid=prevPatrick Haseldine at 22:56, 11 March 20182018-03-11T22:56:30Z<p></p>
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</table>Patrick Haseldinehttps://wikispooks.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ellie_Reeves&diff=145185&oldid=prevPeter: /* Mendacious kindergarten politics */ reply2018-03-09T08:53:39Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Mendacious kindergarten politics: </span> reply</span></p>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"># Margaret and I (along with many others) have been running a campaign against Kiwi Farms. We have approached persons in multiple political parties in multiple countries including Labour (Brendan Cox), Liberals (John Hemming) and Conservatives. Margaret is a Democrat and will not help me plot to get Democrats or Labour people on party political grounds. I am a Conservative and will not help Margaret get Republicans or Conservatives. We have praised those who helped us regardless of party. No one else has flat out declined. So there was no planning of a partisan political attack. We could not have anticipated the killings in December. As you can see from the article I cited, we named but praised Brendan and Shapps (Labour and Conservative) respectively.</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"># Atchison was much more than just a member of Kiwi Farms. He had actually been discussing future school shootings with the owner of Kiwi Farms 3 days before the murder. As evidence I screenshot a message he sent to Kiwi Farms owner Moon three days before the murders in this earlier article of mine - http://matthewhopkinsnews.com/?p=5538 (the screenshot is in the middle). In addition, as that earlier article relates, Kiwi Farms has previously been linked to bomb threats to schools and hospitals.</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># To describe the murderer as 'a member of Kiwi Farms' is also misleading. He had simply signed on to a web site ('''''as had Margaret Plessy herself''''' + many other of its hand-wringing critics) so he could post crap, just as millions of similar young disaffected hot-heads do every day. IOW, Nothing special or significant, but made to appear sinister and scary for the purposes of the attack. </div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># To describe the murderer as 'a member of Kiwi Farms' is also misleading. He had simply signed on to a web site ('''''as had Margaret Plessy herself''''' + many other of its hand-wringing critics) so he could post crap, just as millions of similar young disaffected hot-heads do every day. IOW, Nothing special or significant, but made to appear sinister and scary for the purposes of the attack. </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Brief research on the links in the disputed section, together with a few Google searches reveal it to be a mendacious account of a planned attack on an British MP using contrived and spurious connections to two of the 15,000 or so US homicides per year and which have zero connection to British politics or Ellie Reeves other than the contrived ones of this section. It is a good example of a nasty little 'storm in a kindegarten-politics tea cup' manufactured by at least two people in pursuit of a political agenda.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Brief research on the links in the disputed section, together with a few Google searches reveal it to be a mendacious account of a planned attack on an British MP using contrived and spurious connections to two of the 15,000 or so US homicides per year and which have zero connection to British politics or Ellie Reeves other than the contrived ones of this section. It is a good example of a nasty little 'storm in a kindegarten-politics tea cup' manufactured by at least two people in pursuit of a political agenda. <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">As such it contravenes both [[Wikispooks:Editor Undertakings]] and [[Wikispooks:Editorial Policy]]</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>According to Smith, Ellie Reeves reported him to the police for harassment upon receiving a draft of his article, "Ellie Reeves MP and the Corpses of Children", for comment. After he spoke to a Detective Inspector however, the police decided to take no formal action against him and did not give him a harassment warning. Aside from the failed allegation of harassment, Reeves has never denied the truth of the allegations made by Matthew Hopkins News and did not respond to requests for comment.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>According to Smith, Ellie Reeves reported him to the police for harassment upon receiving a draft of his article, "Ellie Reeves MP and the Corpses of Children", for comment. After he spoke to a Detective Inspector however, the police decided to take no formal action against him and did not give him a harassment warning. Aside from the failed allegation of harassment, Reeves has never denied the truth of the allegations made by Matthew Hopkins News and did not respond to requests for comment.</div></td></tr>
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