https://wikispooks.com/w/index.php?title=Thomas_Thurman&feed=atom&action=historyThomas Thurman - Revision history2024-03-28T23:02:12ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.33.2https://wikispooks.com/w/index.php?title=Thomas_Thurman&diff=248602&oldid=prevRobin: Text replacement - " had served as " to " had been "2022-08-02T22:43:51Z<p>Text replacement - " had served as " to " had been "</p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Thurman had been working on photos of all the UTA wreckage found in a 50 sq km area of the Ténéré Desert; this evidence was placed under special judicial seal № 4. In the Summer of 1991, unbeknownst to Bruguière and Claude Calisti, an expert from the Prefecture of Police crime laboratory, Thurman identified a small piece of printed circuit board, green in colour and measuring 4 sq cm, bearing the marking ''TY''. Without notifying the French authorities, the FBI detectives began following the ''TY'' trail, the trademark of the Taiwanese firm Taiyoun, which manufactured 120,000 such timers in 1988, of which 20,000 were for the German firm Grässlin, based in Freiburg. The FBI then pored over Grässlin’s client list of some 350 names before singling one of them: Hans Peter Wüst, a German national who had travelled to Libya in November 1988 and met with Issa al-Shibani, who had asked if Wüst could provide him with timers that could run on direct current using a nine or 12 volt power supply and which were intended for the night-time illumination of airfields in the desert. Upon returning to Germany, Wüst contacted the Steinmetz company about modifying the batteries, which were not sufficiently powerful, and this was arranged. Wüst told the FBI that he delivered the timers to Tripoli on 20 July 1989. The FBI quickly concluded that Libya had indeed purchased the ''TY'' timer, which had <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">served as </del>the retarding agent in the Samsonite luggage on board the DC-10. Thurman thus discovered the scientific evidence implicating Libya in both the Lockerbie and Ténéré incidents.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Thurman had been working on photos of all the UTA wreckage found in a 50 sq km area of the Ténéré Desert; this evidence was placed under special judicial seal № 4. In the Summer of 1991, unbeknownst to Bruguière and Claude Calisti, an expert from the Prefecture of Police crime laboratory, Thurman identified a small piece of printed circuit board, green in colour and measuring 4 sq cm, bearing the marking ''TY''. Without notifying the French authorities, the FBI detectives began following the ''TY'' trail, the trademark of the Taiwanese firm Taiyoun, which manufactured 120,000 such timers in 1988, of which 20,000 were for the German firm Grässlin, based in Freiburg. The FBI then pored over Grässlin’s client list of some 350 names before singling one of them: Hans Peter Wüst, a German national who had travelled to Libya in November 1988 and met with Issa al-Shibani, who had asked if Wüst could provide him with timers that could run on direct current using a nine or 12 volt power supply and which were intended for the night-time illumination of airfields in the desert. Upon returning to Germany, Wüst contacted the Steinmetz company about modifying the batteries, which were not sufficiently powerful, and this was arranged. Wüst told the FBI that he delivered the timers to Tripoli on 20 July 1989. The FBI quickly concluded that Libya had indeed purchased the ''TY'' timer, which had <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">been </ins>the retarding agent in the Samsonite luggage on board the DC-10. Thurman thus discovered the scientific evidence implicating Libya in both the Lockerbie and Ténéré incidents.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Immediately after receiving Thurman’s report on 15 October 1991, Calisti notified Bruguière, who was pleased to have formal evidence supporting Yanga’s testimony and scientifically proving the Libyan connection. “Formal proof of Libyan culpability” was supplied by the FBI, which worked on the top-secret photographs of the tiny piece of circuit board used to detonate the suitcase bomb, as Jean-Marie Pontault passionately proclaimed on both ''Le Point''’s front page and in his book. Neither Bruguière nor Pontault was worried by the belated yet timely arrival of this evidence, more than two years after the bombing. Bruguière’s ''bill of indictment'' included the FBI’s findings in their entirety but made no mention of the French specialists’ objections to these conclusions. Thurman’s assertions, however, spurred two French counter-inquiries, one by the 6th Direction Centrale de la Police Judiciaire (DCPJ) and the Direction de la Surveillance du Territoire (DST), and the other by the Prefecture of Police crime laboratory.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Immediately after receiving Thurman’s report on 15 October 1991, Calisti notified Bruguière, who was pleased to have formal evidence supporting Yanga’s testimony and scientifically proving the Libyan connection. “Formal proof of Libyan culpability” was supplied by the FBI, which worked on the top-secret photographs of the tiny piece of circuit board used to detonate the suitcase bomb, as Jean-Marie Pontault passionately proclaimed on both ''Le Point''’s front page and in his book. Neither Bruguière nor Pontault was worried by the belated yet timely arrival of this evidence, more than two years after the bombing. Bruguière’s ''bill of indictment'' included the FBI’s findings in their entirety but made no mention of the French specialists’ objections to these conclusions. Thurman’s assertions, however, spurred two French counter-inquiries, one by the 6th Direction Centrale de la Police Judiciaire (DCPJ) and the Direction de la Surveillance du Territoire (DST), and the other by the Prefecture of Police crime laboratory.</div></td></tr>
</table>Robinhttps://wikispooks.com/w/index.php?title=Thomas_Thurman&diff=137284&oldid=prevPatrick Haseldine: /* Slow link to MEBO */2018-01-03T16:12:08Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Slow link to MEBO</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>On top of the fictional months-long search at [[FBI]] before turning to the [[CIA]], this little final touch of reported caution belies the focus and speed beneath the whole June transaction. Nine months of dead-end searches in Scotland were trumped within four days by Thurman's knowledge of just the man to talk to. It also goes against the hint he gave in his ABC interview on 15 November 1991, the day after indictments were issued against the two Libyans, boasting that he had identified the piece of circuit board as part of a timing device that might have been sold to Libyan Airlines staff:<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><ref>''[https://www.lrb.co.uk/v31/n18/gareth-peirce/the-framing-of-al-megrahi "The Framing of al-Megrahi"]''</ref></del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>On top of the fictional months-long search at [[FBI]] before turning to the [[CIA]], this little final touch of reported caution belies the focus and speed beneath the whole June transaction. Nine months of dead-end searches in Scotland were trumped within four days by Thurman's knowledge of just the man to talk to. It also goes against the hint he gave in his ABC interview on 15 November 1991, the day after indictments were issued against the two Libyans, boasting that he had identified the piece of circuit board as part of a timing device that might have been sold to Libyan Airlines staff:</div></td></tr>
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</table>Patrick Haseldinehttps://wikispooks.com/w/index.php?title=Thomas_Thurman&diff=137282&oldid=prevPatrick Haseldine at 16:08, 3 January 20182018-01-03T16:08:15Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>On top of the fictional months-long search at [[FBI]] before turning to the [[CIA]], this little final touch of reported caution belies the focus and speed beneath the whole June transaction. Nine months of dead-end searches in Scotland were trumped within four days by Thurman's knowledge of just the man to talk to. It also goes against the hint he gave in his ABC interview, <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">commenting upon his discovery</del>: "I knew at that point what it meant. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Because</del>, if you will, I<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">'m </del>an investigator as well as a forensic examiner<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">. </del>I knew where that would go.<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"<ref></del>[[<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">The Maltese Double Cross</del>]] <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Film, Hemar Enterprises, 1994, 156 minutes</del>. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Written, produced, and directed by [[Allan Francovich]]</del>. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Researched by [[John Ashton]].</ref></del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>On top of the fictional months-long search at [[FBI]] before turning to the [[CIA]], this little final touch of reported caution belies the focus and speed beneath the whole June transaction. Nine months of dead-end searches in Scotland were trumped within four days by Thurman's knowledge of just the man to talk to. It also goes against the hint he gave in his ABC interview <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">on 15 November 1991</ins>, <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">the day after indictments were issued against the two Libyans, boasting that he had identified the piece of circuit board as part of a timing device that might have been sold to Libyan Airlines staff:<ref>''[https</ins>:<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">//www.lrb.co.uk/v31/n18/gareth-peirce/the-framing-of-al-megrahi </ins>"<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">The Framing of al-Megrahi"]''</ref></ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In June 1990 Tom Thurman made the crucial bomb timer identification for the Lockerbie case, thus putting the focus on Libya.<ref>[http://lockerbiedivide.blogspot.co.uk/2010/11/thurmans-photo-quest.html "Thurman's Photo Quest"]</ref> The [[MEBO]] MST-13 bomb timer fragment was identified, thanks to Thurman's knowing people - like a mysterious [[CIA]] analyst who made the match possible. After the resulting 1991 indictments of the two Libyans, [[Abdelbaset al-Megrahi|Megrahi]] and [[Lamin Khalifah Fhimah|Fhimah]], Thurman gained much wider media fame, most notably as ABC News' "Person of the Week", telling the show: "I love putting the bad guys away."</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In June 1990 Tom Thurman made the crucial bomb timer identification for the Lockerbie case, thus putting the focus on <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[[</ins>Libya<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">]]</ins>.<ref>[http://lockerbiedivide.blogspot.co.uk/2010/11/thurmans-photo-quest.html "Thurman's Photo Quest"]</ref> The [[MEBO]] MST-13 bomb timer fragment was identified, thanks to Thurman's knowing people - like a mysterious [[CIA]] analyst who made the match possible. After the resulting 1991 indictments of the two Libyans, [[Abdelbaset al-Megrahi|Megrahi]] and [[Lamin Khalifah Fhimah|Fhimah]], Thurman gained much wider media fame, most notably as ABC News' "Person of the Week", telling the show: "I love putting the bad guys away."</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>That he got these chills only after getting access to the CIA’s special stores is noteworthy, and the Agency is right to claim much of the credit, as they have in places. An AFIO newsletter from just after the Zeist verdict purred that "the CIA’s most important contribution in helping secure the conviction" was "when a CIA engineer was able to identify the timer […] shifting the focus of the probe from a Palestinian terrorist group to Libya."<ref>[http://www.afio.com/sections/wins/2001/2001-06.html "Association of Former Intelligence Officers"] Weekly Intelligence Notes, February 2001.</ref> (This report's oblique reference to the [[CIA]]'s less brilliant offering, [[Majid Giaka]], is also worth a read.)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>That he got these chills only after getting access to the CIA’s special stores is noteworthy, and the Agency is right to claim much of the credit, as they have in places. An AFIO newsletter from just after the Zeist verdict purred that "the CIA’s most important contribution in helping secure the conviction" was "when a CIA engineer was able to identify the timer […] shifting the focus of the probe from a Palestinian terrorist group to Libya."<ref>[http://www.afio.com/sections/wins/2001/2001-06.html "Association of Former Intelligence Officers"] Weekly Intelligence Notes, February 2001.</ref> (This report's oblique reference to the [[CIA]]'s less brilliant offering, [[Majid Giaka]], is also worth a read.)</div></td></tr>
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</table>Patrick Haseldinehttps://wikispooks.com/w/index.php?title=Thomas_Thurman&diff=78929&oldid=prevPatrick Haseldine: /* Fabricated evidence accusation */"the expert in fabricating evidence"2015-12-29T20:35:04Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Fabricated evidence accusation: </span>"the expert in fabricating evidence"</span></p>
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</table>Patrick Haseldinehttps://wikispooks.com/w/index.php?title=Thomas_Thurman&diff=76246&oldid=prevPatrick Haseldine: /* Unit culture: politics */Wikifying2015-11-19T08:40:49Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Unit culture: politics: </span>Wikifying</span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>===<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Expert in '''F'''a'''B'''r'''I'''cating </del>evidence===</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>===<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Fabricated </ins>evidence <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">accusation</ins>===</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>According to investigative journalist [[Pierre Péan]]:</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>According to investigative journalist [[Pierre Péan]]:</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:"It is striking to note the similarity of the 'scientific' evidence discovered by the FBI's Tom Thurman in both the Lockerbie and UTA cases. Of the tens of thousands of pieces of debris collected at each disaster site, one lone piece of printed circuit was found and, miracle of miracles, in each case the fragment bore markings that allowed for positive identification: [[MEBO]] in the Lockerbie case and ''TY'' in the case of [[UTA Flight 772]]. Despite the common findings of the DCPJ, the DST and the Prefecture of Police crime laboratory, [[UTA Flight 772#<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Tom Thurman '''F'''a'''B'''r'''I'''cated </del>evidence|Juge Bruguière chose to believe Thurman<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, the expert in '''F'''a'''B'''r'''I'''cating evidence</del>]]."<ref>[http://mondediplo.com/2001/03/05libya "Fabricated Evidence of Libyan Terrorism"] Excerpt from "African Manipulations" by Pierre Péan, ''Le Monde diplomatique'', 5 March 2001</ref></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:"It is striking to note the similarity of the 'scientific' evidence discovered by the FBI's Tom Thurman in both the Lockerbie and UTA cases. Of the tens of thousands of pieces of debris collected at each disaster site, one lone piece of printed circuit was found and, miracle of miracles, in each case the fragment bore markings that allowed for positive identification: [[MEBO]] in the Lockerbie case and ''TY'' in the case of [[UTA Flight 772]]. Despite the common findings of the DCPJ, the DST and the Prefecture of Police crime laboratory, [[UTA Flight 772#<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Fabricated </ins>evidence <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">accusation</ins>|Juge Bruguière chose to believe Thurman]]." <ref>[http://mondediplo.com/2001/03/05libya "Fabricated Evidence of Libyan Terrorism"] Excerpt from "African Manipulations" by Pierre Péan, ''Le Monde diplomatique'', 5 March 2001</ref></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>===Fitted up for the crime===</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>===Fitted up for the crime===</div></td></tr>
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