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From [[Wikispooks:Standardisation#Subpages]]: ''Wikispooks uses mediawiki subpages to indicate a hierarchical (dependent) relationship. A page title of the form A/B can be read as "the B of A".'' That would make this "the Wagner coup attempt of [the] 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine", which is doesn't quite work for me. Although the two pages correspond to events which are obviously connected, it's ''not a hierarchical relationship'', as in, say, [[JFK/Assassination/Foreknowledge]] - in which the bits of the title are clearly not feasible on their own. Accordingly, I suggest that this would be better moved to a top level page. -- [[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:05, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 
From [[Wikispooks:Standardisation#Subpages]]: ''Wikispooks uses mediawiki subpages to indicate a hierarchical (dependent) relationship. A page title of the form A/B can be read as "the B of A".'' That would make this "the Wagner coup attempt of [the] 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine", which is doesn't quite work for me. Although the two pages correspond to events which are obviously connected, it's ''not a hierarchical relationship'', as in, say, [[JFK/Assassination/Foreknowledge]] - in which the bits of the title are clearly not feasible on their own. Accordingly, I suggest that this would be better moved to a top level page. -- [[User:Robin|Robin]] ([[User talk:Robin|talk]]) 16:05, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 
:I disagree, as they allegedly tried to coup the entire invasion by trying to held the command in Rostov hostage; had the alleged backing of 30 high ranking Russian officials and even afterwards; took over the most important military command district of Russia and wanted to remove and replace Shogou and Gerasimov. Wagner Telegram said "there will be a new president soon" (this I'd doubt a little, as Putin met with Wagner leadership days after). So, I would understand that as, it was a Wagner coup attempt of ''the entire the Russian invasion''. I believe there is a hierarchical relationship because this would prob have never happened without the "SPO", that's why I made it a subpage. but if you still disagree or I haven't implemented the standardisation correctly, feel free to move it. [[User:Jun|Jun]] ([[User talk:Jun|talk]]) 20:42, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 
:I disagree, as they allegedly tried to coup the entire invasion by trying to held the command in Rostov hostage; had the alleged backing of 30 high ranking Russian officials and even afterwards; took over the most important military command district of Russia and wanted to remove and replace Shogou and Gerasimov. Wagner Telegram said "there will be a new president soon" (this I'd doubt a little, as Putin met with Wagner leadership days after). So, I would understand that as, it was a Wagner coup attempt of ''the entire the Russian invasion''. I believe there is a hierarchical relationship because this would prob have never happened without the "SPO", that's why I made it a subpage. but if you still disagree or I haven't implemented the standardisation correctly, feel free to move it. [[User:Jun|Jun]] ([[User talk:Jun|talk]]) 20:42, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
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::I suggest making [Wagner coup attempt] a subpage of Wagner Group or combine with Wagner group page. [[User:Suresh|Suresh]] ([[User talk:Suresh|talk]]) 23:30, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

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From Wikispooks:Standardisation#Subpages: Wikispooks uses mediawiki subpages to indicate a hierarchical (dependent) relationship. A page title of the form A/B can be read as "the B of A". That would make this "the Wagner coup attempt of [the] 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine", which is doesn't quite work for me. Although the two pages correspond to events which are obviously connected, it's not a hierarchical relationship, as in, say, JFK/Assassination/Foreknowledge - in which the bits of the title are clearly not feasible on their own. Accordingly, I suggest that this would be better moved to a top level page. -- Robin (talk) 16:05, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

I disagree, as they allegedly tried to coup the entire invasion by trying to held the command in Rostov hostage; had the alleged backing of 30 high ranking Russian officials and even afterwards; took over the most important military command district of Russia and wanted to remove and replace Shogou and Gerasimov. Wagner Telegram said "there will be a new president soon" (this I'd doubt a little, as Putin met with Wagner leadership days after). So, I would understand that as, it was a Wagner coup attempt of the entire the Russian invasion. I believe there is a hierarchical relationship because this would prob have never happened without the "SPO", that's why I made it a subpage. but if you still disagree or I haven't implemented the standardisation correctly, feel free to move it. Jun (talk) 20:42, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
I suggest making [Wagner coup attempt] a subpage of Wagner Group or combine with Wagner group page. Suresh (talk) 23:30, 26 August 2023 (UTC)