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The '''2023 Hawaii wildfires''' destroyed the city of Lāhainā on the island of Maui.<ref>https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12394625/Oldest-house-Maui-razed-ground-deadly-wildfires-Baldwin-House-built-1834-Lahaina-played-host-members-Hawaiian-royal-family-city-capital.html</ref> [[Ryan Cristian]] of TLAV is investigating the story,<ref>[https://odysee.com/@TLAVagabond:5/TDWU-8-12-23:5 Were Directed Energy Weapons Used In Maui? Let's Look At What We Can Prove...] (August 12, 2023)</ref><ref>[https://odysee.com/@TLAVagabond:5/Shelby-Thompson-Interview-8-14-23:c Shelby Thomson Interview - Locals Convinced Maui Fires Not Accident As Evidence Suggests Foul Play] (August 14, 2023)</ref><ref>[https://odysee.com/@TLAVagabond:5/TDWU-8-15-23:1 Something Is Very Wrong With The #MauiFires & FDA Claims It Cannot Be Held Accountable For Misinfo] (August 16, 2023)</ref><ref>[https://odysee.com/@TLAVagabond:5/TDWU-8-17-23-1:b Maui Update: Land Grabs, 2030 Goals, Aluminum Dust & New Space Force DEW Unit Activated Last Week] (August 17, 2023)</ref> as well as some Youtubers.<ref>[[Jonathan Petramala]] - https://www.youtube.com/@JonathanPetramala/videos</ref><ref>[[Hawaii Real Estate]] - https://www.youtube.com/@hawaiirealestateorg/videos</ref>
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The '''2023 Hawaii wildfires''' destroyed the city of Lāhainā on the island of Maui.<ref>https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12394625/Oldest-house-Maui-razed-ground-deadly-wildfires-Baldwin-House-built-1834-Lahaina-played-host-members-Hawaiian-royal-family-city-capital.html</ref> [[Ryan Cristian]] of TLAV is investigating the story,<ref>[https://odysee.com/@TLAVagabond:5/TDWU-8-12-23:5 Were Directed Energy Weapons Used In Maui? Let's Look At What We Can Prove...] (August 12, 2023)</ref><ref>[https://odysee.com/@TLAVagabond:5/Shelby-Thompson-Interview-8-14-23:c Shelby Thomson Interview - Locals Convinced Maui Fires Not Accident As Evidence Suggests Foul Play] (August 14, 2023)</ref><ref>[https://odysee.com/@TLAVagabond:5/TDWU-8-15-23:1 Something Is Very Wrong With The #MauiFires & FDA Claims It Cannot Be Held Accountable For Misinfo] (August 16, 2023)</ref><ref>[https://odysee.com/@TLAVagabond:5/TDWU-8-17-23-1:b Maui Update: Land Grabs, 2030 Goals, Aluminum Dust & New Space Force DEW Unit Activated Last Week] (August 17, 2023)</ref> as well as some Youtubers, like [[Eric West]].<ref>[[Jonathan Petramala]] - https://www.youtube.com/@JonathanPetramala/videos</ref><ref>[[Hawaii Real Estate]] - https://www.youtube.com/@hawaiirealestateorg/videos</ref> The Hawaii Fire Department found an incendiary device on September 9th, possibly suggesting arson as a cause.<ref>https://spectrumlocalnews.com/hi/hawaii/top-stories/2023/08/10/hawaii-island-police-investigate-arson-as-cause-of-the-ka---wildfire</ref> Extreme winds were occurring that day.
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The incendiary device found in Hawaii possibly suggests arson as the cause of fire.<ref>https://spectrumlocalnews.com/hi/hawaii/top-stories/2023/08/10/hawaii-island-police-investigate-arson-as-cause-of-the-ka---wildfire</ref> However, there is not a single coverage on Youtube that reports this suspicious use of incendiary device on Hawaii. To dismiss any actual conspiracies and suspicious possibilies, the media reported viral images "showing" the use of "Directed Energy Weapons"<ref>https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattnovak/2023/08/13/viral-photo-of-laser-starting-fires-in-hawaii-is-completely-fake/?sh=37e1bad66313</ref>. This is likely a debunker tactic similar to no plane theory of World Trade Center attacks.  
 
  
 
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Lahaina city has some of the more expensive real estate in the US.<ref>http://archive.today/2023.08.21-202552/https://www.redfin.com/city/10924/HI/Lahaina/housing-market</ref> The police seems to have blocked exit routes which trapped many people.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jVDTfp7gFc Maui Police Blocked Escape Routed as told by FISH from Front Street Found ALIVE!] (Aug 19, 2023) Hawaii Real Estate YT channel</ref> The German version of [[Russia Today]] carried an article that focused on the speculation on the usage of electromagnetic weaponry to clear the area for the construction of a [[smart city]].<ref>https://de.rt.com/nordamerika/178157-wurde-maui-fuer-errichtung-smart/ saved at [https://web.archive.org/web/20070703040420/https://de.rt.com/nordamerika/178157-wurde-maui-fuer-errichtung-smart/ Archive.org] saved at [https://archive.li/bbXMc Archive.is]</ref> Local Youtubers have recorded burnt cars that were standing on an empty lot whose rims have melted away with no damage to surrounding buildings.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg2WV-B26pA Maui D.E.W: Evidence of Direct Energy Weapon? Judge For Yourself..], Hawaii Real Estate, Aug 28, 2023</ref><ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9L9WvlCli0 MORE EVIDENCE - 2 Miles from Lahaina Fire A Melted Car Surrounded by Gravel! D.E.W. or What?], Hawaii Real Estate, Aug 28, 2023</ref>
 
Lahaina city has some of the more expensive real estate in the US.<ref>http://archive.today/2023.08.21-202552/https://www.redfin.com/city/10924/HI/Lahaina/housing-market</ref> The police seems to have blocked exit routes which trapped many people.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jVDTfp7gFc Maui Police Blocked Escape Routed as told by FISH from Front Street Found ALIVE!] (Aug 19, 2023) Hawaii Real Estate YT channel</ref> The German version of [[Russia Today]] carried an article that focused on the speculation on the usage of electromagnetic weaponry to clear the area for the construction of a [[smart city]].<ref>https://de.rt.com/nordamerika/178157-wurde-maui-fuer-errichtung-smart/ saved at [https://web.archive.org/web/20070703040420/https://de.rt.com/nordamerika/178157-wurde-maui-fuer-errichtung-smart/ Archive.org] saved at [https://archive.li/bbXMc Archive.is]</ref> Local Youtubers have recorded burnt cars that were standing on an empty lot whose rims have melted away with no damage to surrounding buildings.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg2WV-B26pA Maui D.E.W: Evidence of Direct Energy Weapon? Judge For Yourself..], Hawaii Real Estate, Aug 28, 2023</ref><ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9L9WvlCli0 MORE EVIDENCE - 2 Miles from Lahaina Fire A Melted Car Surrounded by Gravel! D.E.W. or What?], Hawaii Real Estate, Aug 28, 2023</ref>
  
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[[Eric West]] in a video interview with survivors who have lost their home, hints at the fact that videos are getting removed from phones of local people.<ref>starting ca 08:05 - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q6lNB6yilY Maui Lahaina Fire : Behind the Scenes with Real Survivors : Jeremy and Elisha Baldwin 4 Children] (Aug 22, 2023) Hawaii Real Estate YT channel </ref>
 
[[Eric West]] in a video interview with survivors who have lost their home, hints at the fact that videos are getting removed from phones of local people.<ref>starting ca 08:05 - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q6lNB6yilY Maui Lahaina Fire : Behind the Scenes with Real Survivors : Jeremy and Elisha Baldwin 4 Children] (Aug 22, 2023) Hawaii Real Estate YT channel </ref>
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[[Shelby Thomson]] makes the observation that the cars that have burned out at Front-Street all have their doors closed, indicating that the people did not get out and died inside, which seems implausible since there should be enough time to get out in a regular fire and into the water nearby. In her view this is also the reason why the area has been closed off and only [[FEMA]] and [[National Guard]] are allowed in - to make documentation of facts impossible.<ref>[https://rumble.com/v3bbxdm-it-was-voluntary-manslaughter-part-1-of-our-interview-with-maui-resident-sh.html "It was Voluntary Manslaughter" | Part 1 of our Interview with Maui resident Shelby Thomson] The Homeless Left channel, starting ca. 10:00</ref>
  
 
===Death toll===
 
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As of 21st September 2023 [[Wikipedia]] lists 97+ victims based on a report by [[AP]] from September 18th.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2023_Hawaii_wildfires&oldid=1176233917</ref><ref>http://archive.today/2023.09.20-222033/https://apnews.com/article/maui-hawaii-wildfire-death-toll-3dc505d4d83b6af5ee01fdaf173c4f01</ref> Some locals believe that the death toll might be much higher, based on the fact that the accounting is withheld from the public.<ref>https://odysee.com/@TLAVagabond:5/Shelby-Thomson-Interview-8-30-23:7</ref>
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The death toll was reported to be 115 until mid-September [[2023]]; as of 21st September [[Wikipedia]] lists 97+ victims based on a report by [[AP]] from September 18th.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2023_Hawaii_wildfires&oldid=1176233917</ref><ref>http://archive.today/2023.09.20-222033/https://apnews.com/article/maui-hawaii-wildfire-death-toll-3dc505d4d83b6af5ee01fdaf173c4f01</ref> Some locals believe that the death toll might be much higher, based on the fact that accounting is withheld, or not done in an open way.<ref>https://odysee.com/@TLAVagabond:5/Shelby-Thomson-Interview-8-30-23:7</ref>
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To dismiss any actual conspiracies and suspicious possibilities, the media reported [[viral]], faked images "showing" the use of "lasers shot from space".<ref>https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattnovak/2023/08/13/viral-photo-of-laser-starting-fires-in-hawaii-is-completely-fake/</ref>. This is likely a debunker tactic similar to no plane theory of World Trade Center attacks.
  
 
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2023 Hawaii wildfires (Fire,  Field-test?) Rdf-entity.pngRdf-icon.png
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Date8 August 2023 - 11 August 2023
LocationHawaii
Deaths97
Interest ofGeoff Cygnus, Shelby Hosana, Michael McGrew, Eric West
DescriptionThe city of Lāhainā, Hawaii was destroyed by fire.

The 2023 Hawaii wildfires destroyed the city of Lāhainā on the island of Maui.[1] Ryan Cristian of TLAV is investigating the story,[2][3][4][5] as well as some Youtubers, like Eric West.[6][7] The Hawaii Fire Department found an incendiary device on September 9th, possibly suggesting arson as a cause.[8] Extreme winds were occurring that day.

Official narrative

In early August 2023, a series of wildfires broke out in the U.S. state of Hawaii, predominantly on the island of Maui. The wind-driven fires prompted evacuations, caused widespread damage, and killed at least 80 people in the town of Lahaina. The proliferation of the wildfires was attributed to dry, gusty conditions created by a strong high-pressure area north of Hawaii and Hurricane Dora to the south.

An emergency declaration was signed on August 8, authorising several actions, including activation of the Hawaii National Guard, appropriate actions by the director of the Hawaii Emergency Management Agency and the Administrator of Emergency Management, and the expenditure of state general revenue funds for relief of conditions created by the fires. By August 9, the state government of Hawaii issued a state of emergency for the entirety of the state. On August 10, U.S. president Joe Biden issued a federal major disaster declaration.

As of August 11, the 2023 Hawaii wildfires are the deadliest in the United States since the Camp Fire of 2018, in which 85 people were confirmed killed. For the Lahaina fire alone, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and the Pacific Disaster Center (PDC) estimated that over 2,200 buildings had been destroyed, including many historic landmarks in Lahaina, and estimated the damage caused by the fire at approximately $5.52 billion.[9]

Concerns

Lahaina city has some of the more expensive real estate in the US.[10] The police seems to have blocked exit routes which trapped many people.[11] The German version of Russia Today carried an article that focused on the speculation on the usage of electromagnetic weaponry to clear the area for the construction of a smart city.[12] Local Youtubers have recorded burnt cars that were standing on an empty lot whose rims have melted away with no damage to surrounding buildings.[13][14]

Zerohedge reports that the local administration attempts an information blackout and Governor of Hawaii, Josh Green, told locals not to listen to information from social media and "influencers".[15] He said: "doing reporting through social media is idiotic".[16] Media is not allowed to do on the ground reporting,[17] even locals who try to film are ordered away.[18] Curtains are put up on the side of the road as to block the view on the disaster area.[19][20]

Eric West in a video interview with survivors who have lost their home, hints at the fact that videos are getting removed from phones of local people.[21]

Shelby Thomson makes the observation that the cars that have burned out at Front-Street all have their doors closed, indicating that the people did not get out and died inside, which seems implausible since there should be enough time to get out in a regular fire and into the water nearby. In her view this is also the reason why the area has been closed off and only FEMA and National Guard are allowed in - to make documentation of facts impossible.[22]

Death toll

The death toll was reported to be 115 until mid-September 2023; as of 21st September Wikipedia lists 97+ victims based on a report by AP from September 18th.[23][24] Some locals believe that the death toll might be much higher, based on the fact that accounting is withheld, or not done in an open way.[25]

"Space lasers"

To dismiss any actual conspiracies and suspicious possibilities, the media reported viral, faked images "showing" the use of "lasers shot from space".[26]. This is likely a debunker tactic similar to no plane theory of World Trade Center attacks.

Videos


'Lionel': What Really Caused the Maui Fires
Jonathan Herzog (August 11, 2023) Maui Lahaina Wild Fire Escape
Jonathan Petramala (Aug 17, 2023) Chaotic Maui Evacuation: Police Block Exits As Wildfire Forces Ocean Escape



 

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References

  1. ↑ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12394625/Oldest-house-Maui-razed-ground-deadly-wildfires-Baldwin-House-built-1834-Lahaina-played-host-members-Hawaiian-royal-family-city-capital.html
  2. ↑ Were Directed Energy Weapons Used In Maui? Let's Look At What We Can Prove... (August 12, 2023)
  3. ↑ Shelby Thomson Interview - Locals Convinced Maui Fires Not Accident As Evidence Suggests Foul Play (August 14, 2023)
  4. ↑ Something Is Very Wrong With The #MauiFires & FDA Claims It Cannot Be Held Accountable For Misinfo (August 16, 2023)
  5. ↑ Maui Update: Land Grabs, 2030 Goals, Aluminum Dust & New Space Force DEW Unit Activated Last Week (August 17, 2023)
  6. ↑ Jonathan Petramala - https://www.youtube.com/@JonathanPetramala/videos
  7. ↑ Hawaii Real Estate - https://www.youtube.com/@hawaiirealestateorg/videos
  8. ↑ https://spectrumlocalnews.com/hi/hawaii/top-stories/2023/08/10/hawaii-island-police-investigate-arson-as-cause-of-the-ka---wildfire
  9. ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwOkhkGQTNg
  10. ↑ http://archive.today/2023.08.21-202552/https://www.redfin.com/city/10924/HI/Lahaina/housing-market
  11. ↑ Maui Police Blocked Escape Routed as told by FISH from Front Street Found ALIVE! (Aug 19, 2023) Hawaii Real Estate YT channel
  12. ↑ https://de.rt.com/nordamerika/178157-wurde-maui-fuer-errichtung-smart/ saved at Archive.org saved at Archive.is
  13. ↑ Maui D.E.W: Evidence of Direct Energy Weapon? Judge For Yourself.., Hawaii Real Estate, Aug 28, 2023
  14. ↑ MORE EVIDENCE - 2 Miles from Lahaina Fire A Melted Car Surrounded by Gravel! D.E.W. or What?, Hawaii Real Estate, Aug 28, 2023
  15. ↑ https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hawaii-state-government-attempts-information-blackout-maui-fire-refuses-media-access
  16. ↑ https://en-volve.com/2023/08/20/hawaii-gov-josh-green-doing-reporting-through-social-media-is-idiotic/
  17. ↑ https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-08-21-hawaii-state-government-attempts-information-blackout.html
  18. ↑ at the end of the video, MORE EVIDENCE - 2 Miles from Lahaina Fire A Melted Car Surrounded by Gravel! D.E.W. or What?
  19. ↑ https://davidicke.com/2023/08/29/media-blackout-black-curtains-go-up-in-lahaina-blocking-view-of-ground-zero-investigation-clean-up/
  20. ↑ https://townhall.com/tipsheet/saraharnold/2023/08/30/black-curtains-surrounding-the-site-of-maui-fires-suggests-media-blackout-from-learning-the-truth-n2627751
  21. ↑ starting ca 08:05 - Maui Lahaina Fire : Behind the Scenes with Real Survivors : Jeremy and Elisha Baldwin 4 Children (Aug 22, 2023) Hawaii Real Estate YT channel
  22. ↑ "It was Voluntary Manslaughter" | Part 1 of our Interview with Maui resident Shelby Thomson The Homeless Left channel, starting ca. 10:00
  23. ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2023_Hawaii_wildfires&oldid=1176233917
  24. ↑ http://archive.today/2023.09.20-222033/https://apnews.com/article/maui-hawaii-wildfire-death-toll-3dc505d4d83b6af5ee01fdaf173c4f01
  25. ↑ https://odysee.com/@TLAVagabond:5/Shelby-Thomson-Interview-8-30-23:7
  26. ↑ https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattnovak/2023/08/13/viral-photo-of-laser-starting-fires-in-hawaii-is-completely-fake/
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